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		<title>By: Dargalon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/15/laser-brain/#comment-24516</link>
		<dc:creator>Dargalon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ill-fated actress Jessica Lange played and won an Oscar for was Frances Farmer. Perhaps the rest of the intellectual goop presented here is as wrong as calling her Frances Harper. Ya just don't know what you're talking about, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ill-fated actress Jessica Lange played and won an Oscar for was Frances Farmer. Perhaps the rest of the intellectual goop presented here is as wrong as calling her Frances Harper. Ya just don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Turner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/15/laser-brain/#comment-23639</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll push back a bit and return to my earlier question about race and representation. The photograph which accompanies this blog entry is telling, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll push back a bit and return to my earlier question about race and representation. The photograph which accompanies this blog entry is telling, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Schock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/15/laser-brain/#comment-23594</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Schock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the success of this piece is evidenced in the powerfully disparate responses and interpretations that it has inspired.  The comments posted here support my suspicion that the sometimes open-ended, sometimes culturally loaded, sometimes ponderous, sometimes offensive, sometimes familiar, sometimes all of the above - but always rigorously crafted - images impacted each member of the audience in very different ways.  Gender and education (both mentioned above) are only two of the many filters each individual brought to the experience.  In this instance, perhaps our definitions of the social, political and cultural function(s) of art may be the most telling filter of all.  After sharing my stunned, fascinated and still not fully articulated excitement about the piece in the lobby with a colleague, i was asked "yes, but did you learn anything about women?"  Well no, i did not.  Nor, did i happen to expect that from the experience.  What i did learn in witnessing "Hey Girl" is something about myself. This is a rare gift.  So, at the risk of revealing my own assumptions, hopes and dreams for the role of artistic practice, i can only say: indeed, what more can we ask for from the stage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the success of this piece is evidenced in the powerfully disparate responses and interpretations that it has inspired.  The comments posted here support my suspicion that the sometimes open-ended, sometimes culturally loaded, sometimes ponderous, sometimes offensive, sometimes familiar, sometimes all of the above - but always rigorously crafted - images impacted each member of the audience in very different ways.  Gender and education (both mentioned above) are only two of the many filters each individual brought to the experience.  In this instance, perhaps our definitions of the social, political and cultural function(s) of art may be the most telling filter of all.  After sharing my stunned, fascinated and still not fully articulated excitement about the piece in the lobby with a colleague, i was asked &#8220;yes, but did you learn anything about women?&#8221;  Well no, i did not.  Nor, did i happen to expect that from the experience.  What i did learn in witnessing &#8220;Hey Girl&#8221; is something about myself. This is a rare gift.  So, at the risk of revealing my own assumptions, hopes and dreams for the role of artistic practice, i can only say: indeed, what more can we ask for from the stage?</p>
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		<title>By: nor hall</title>
		<link>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/15/laser-brain/#comment-23586</link>
		<dc:creator>nor hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/15/laser-brain/#comment-23586</guid>
		<description>A few more random thoughts from an archetypal stream surfer (after Charles)(I think we all are). That head of the Patriarch at the end was a van Eyck and stood on end (historically beheaded) after the (Logos) laser beam Conception attempt.  The second time I saw Hey Girl, I saw the girl step aside from the beam at the end and go to embrace the Other lunar woman instead so that the beam/Word(s) fell on infertile ground (barren seminario from semen). I don't think this message is outdated or misogynist-- comments I heard both nights. The vacuousness Castellucci saw in the faces of the girls at the bus stop (Tmes article)is still sadly universal. He has six chldren-- three girls.  Two dancers in the lobby told me how stunned they were by the piece. Maybe reacting viscerally has more to do with feeling inside the body of the vulnerable/defiant girl.  Even though I admit being carried on the wave of associations that are fascinating and powerful for me as the (educated--"elite sensationalist"?) viewer I felt the piece from inside the body's experience of trying on cosmetics,  fidgeting with the cape of the fighter, wandering timidly in a crowd of men, looking through glass that shatters. Jane Ellen Harrison (outdated?) said (1909?) that the same impulse sends us to church as to theatre. She didn't mean to megachurch as theatre but to a collective place where something moving is revealed out of the dark)like Isabelle Hupert in Psychosis 2:34-- her posture also came to mind when I was watching the girl). And H.D.'s "a new Eve come to retrieve what she had lost."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more random thoughts from an archetypal stream surfer (after Charles)(I think we all are). That head of the Patriarch at the end was a van Eyck and stood on end (historically beheaded) after the (Logos) laser beam Conception attempt.  The second time I saw Hey Girl, I saw the girl step aside from the beam at the end and go to embrace the Other lunar woman instead so that the beam/Word(s) fell on infertile ground (barren seminario from semen). I don&#8217;t think this message is outdated or misogynist&#8211; comments I heard both nights. The vacuousness Castellucci saw in the faces of the girls at the bus stop (Tmes article)is still sadly universal. He has six chldren&#8211; three girls.  Two dancers in the lobby told me how stunned they were by the piece. Maybe reacting viscerally has more to do with feeling inside the body of the vulnerable/defiant girl.  Even though I admit being carried on the wave of associations that are fascinating and powerful for me as the (educated&#8211;&#8221;elite sensationalist&#8221;?) viewer I felt the piece from inside the body&#8217;s experience of trying on cosmetics,  fidgeting with the cape of the fighter, wandering timidly in a crowd of men, looking through glass that shatters. Jane Ellen Harrison (outdated?) said (1909?) that the same impulse sends us to church as to theatre. She didn&#8217;t mean to megachurch as theatre but to a collective place where something moving is revealed out of the dark)like Isabelle Hupert in Psychosis 2:34&#8211; her posture also came to mind when I was watching the girl). And H.D.&#8217;s &#8220;a new Eve come to retrieve what she had lost.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/15/laser-brain/#comment-23550</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/15/laser-brain/#comment-23550</guid>
		<description>I went to see Hey Girl again last night (Sunday).  I should say I almost never see anything twice, and paying full price (twice!) is even more rare for me.  But I was compelled to delve deeper into this work, especially since there have been so many approaches to processing it going on around me (at the theater, on this blog, in my house, on the phone, in my bed). It touched a big nerve in me, one that has been asleep for a very long time.

I maintain that it is a powerful piece, albeit, perhaps more powerful for females than males. More specifically, for mothers? For former girls? 
It certainly did not feel like a lecture (unaffected by the pointing fingers. I was more affected by the girl pulling herself together, pulling her shirt down, putting her hair behind her ear, and smiling creepily. As a mother of a 9-year-old girl, that kind of "shellack" scares me).

A lot of the material -- the images, music, the symbols (even though a character says "I hate symbols" the show is chock full of them, medieval and not), the technology, the style -- are familiar, cliches.  We can put labels on them like "so 1980's" or "feminist" or "racial." But when I do that it can separate me, remove me, even elevate me, make me feel superior to the work. I guess I prefer to surrender. It's like paying a masseuse to be hard on you, cause pain even. Not that I like pain but I am there to get my muscles worked on.

Yes, I see the things you see Charles and Michael: what that you call "ridiculous" a person in the lobby called "violent, disturbing." Take the laser to the head, for example: You thought of Star Trek, Michael, which is funny and certainly it's there, whereas I immediately thought of the movie "Frances" in which Jessica Lange, as the outspoken actress Frances Harper, undergoes a lobotomy to make her more docile, less feisty and troublesome (how often have I mused about getting me one of them lobotomies? It would make life so much easier.....).  

I still don't get why the drum beating is ridiculous, but maybe it's because I have my own associations for that.  I think this is a detail I am referring to when I say it feels disloyal to pick it apart and judge the pieces rather than let the whole work together.  HAving the pink goo drip throughout, for example.  Did anyone wish it would stop?  I wish I could see that every day.

Charles says: "The less I could identify an intention or a meaning behind them (the images) the more evocative and complex they were. When I had no rational explanation for something, the image began to play around in my head like a living thing. I had no control over it, and that was exciting."
RIght on.  
I think, then,  there is little value in exposing oneself to hype, previews, research.  It brings up the question again for me:  Why do we go to the theater, any theater?  Why ever be armed to be disappointed?  Don't we want to like it, don't we want to be changed, to grow, to learn, etc.? 
With movies, I think most of us enter with a pretty clear idea of what we'll see and maybe even an expectation of how we will feel about it, how we will exit the building.  In a very broad sense, it might go like this: we see horror movies to be thrilled and scared; we see comedies to make us laugh; we see romantic thrillers to move us; we see porn (well, I don't) to titillate us. We pay a relatively small price and we get pretty much something we know we will get.  With theater, and maybe especially the Walker, we have broader expectations.  

With Hey Girl, I was reminded that as a viewer I can accept  a lot.  I am generous with my trust.  I take in the cliche symbols, can surf many streams, can be dumb,  intellectual, sensitive, annoyed, inspired, bored.  The bad stuff has value, too, and I am coming around to this form of communication and processing.  I do appreciate the discourse, the dialogue, the differences.  I hope that comes across.

And that is not a girl thing or an artist thing or an intellectual thing.  It's a true, valid thing from an olive-skinned white woman who will never be the same.   

Also, as a mature, successful, proven director, Romeo Castellucci is almost ineligible for Out There-- that is a forum for less proven entities than he. I think following Out There with Anna Teresa de Keersmaeker and Castellucci has been brilliant, fortuitous scheduling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to see Hey Girl again last night (Sunday).  I should say I almost never see anything twice, and paying full price (twice!) is even more rare for me.  But I was compelled to delve deeper into this work, especially since there have been so many approaches to processing it going on around me (at the theater, on this blog, in my house, on the phone, in my bed). It touched a big nerve in me, one that has been asleep for a very long time.</p>
<p>I maintain that it is a powerful piece, albeit, perhaps more powerful for females than males. More specifically, for mothers? For former girls?<br />
It certainly did not feel like a lecture (unaffected by the pointing fingers. I was more affected by the girl pulling herself together, pulling her shirt down, putting her hair behind her ear, and smiling creepily. As a mother of a 9-year-old girl, that kind of &#8220;shellack&#8221; scares me).</p>
<p>A lot of the material &#8212; the images, music, the symbols (even though a character says &#8220;I hate symbols&#8221; the show is chock full of them, medieval and not), the technology, the style &#8212; are familiar, cliches.  We can put labels on them like &#8220;so 1980&#8217;s&#8221; or &#8220;feminist&#8221; or &#8220;racial.&#8221; But when I do that it can separate me, remove me, even elevate me, make me feel superior to the work. I guess I prefer to surrender. It&#8217;s like paying a masseuse to be hard on you, cause pain even. Not that I like pain but I am there to get my muscles worked on.</p>
<p>Yes, I see the things you see Charles and Michael: what that you call &#8220;ridiculous&#8221; a person in the lobby called &#8220;violent, disturbing.&#8221; Take the laser to the head, for example: You thought of Star Trek, Michael, which is funny and certainly it&#8217;s there, whereas I immediately thought of the movie &#8220;Frances&#8221; in which Jessica Lange, as the outspoken actress Frances Harper, undergoes a lobotomy to make her more docile, less feisty and troublesome (how often have I mused about getting me one of them lobotomies? It would make life so much easier&#8230;..).  </p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t get why the drum beating is ridiculous, but maybe it&#8217;s because I have my own associations for that.  I think this is a detail I am referring to when I say it feels disloyal to pick it apart and judge the pieces rather than let the whole work together.  HAving the pink goo drip throughout, for example.  Did anyone wish it would stop?  I wish I could see that every day.</p>
<p>Charles says: &#8220;The less I could identify an intention or a meaning behind them (the images) the more evocative and complex they were. When I had no rational explanation for something, the image began to play around in my head like a living thing. I had no control over it, and that was exciting.&#8221;<br />
RIght on.<br />
I think, then,  there is little value in exposing oneself to hype, previews, research.  It brings up the question again for me:  Why do we go to the theater, any theater?  Why ever be armed to be disappointed?  Don&#8217;t we want to like it, don&#8217;t we want to be changed, to grow, to learn, etc.?<br />
With movies, I think most of us enter with a pretty clear idea of what we&#8217;ll see and maybe even an expectation of how we will feel about it, how we will exit the building.  In a very broad sense, it might go like this: we see horror movies to be thrilled and scared; we see comedies to make us laugh; we see romantic thrillers to move us; we see porn (well, I don&#8217;t) to titillate us. We pay a relatively small price and we get pretty much something we know we will get.  With theater, and maybe especially the Walker, we have broader expectations.  </p>
<p>With Hey Girl, I was reminded that as a viewer I can accept  a lot.  I am generous with my trust.  I take in the cliche symbols, can surf many streams, can be dumb,  intellectual, sensitive, annoyed, inspired, bored.  The bad stuff has value, too, and I am coming around to this form of communication and processing.  I do appreciate the discourse, the dialogue, the differences.  I hope that comes across.</p>
<p>And that is not a girl thing or an artist thing or an intellectual thing.  It&#8217;s a true, valid thing from an olive-skinned white woman who will never be the same.   </p>
<p>Also, as a mature, successful, proven director, Romeo Castellucci is almost ineligible for Out There&#8211; that is a forum for less proven entities than he. I think following Out There with Anna Teresa de Keersmaeker and Castellucci has been brilliant, fortuitous scheduling.</p>
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