Comments on: Death http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/ Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:08:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Charles Campbell http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/#comment-22501 Charles Campbell Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:55:04 +0000 http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/#comment-22501 Yeah, like Mr Twain said: <blockquote cite="">"Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer."</blockquote> The Wall of Death? Maybe Pink Floyd? Nah. The idea that there's a problem with experience and art is not a new one. I'm just struggling to find a way to talk about it in our current context. Because there is a lot of work going on in our fair city(ies) that uses (intentionally or not) practices I see as related to Mr Neumann's that I feel are ways of breaking down expectations, habits of thinking and seeing, and preconceptions in order to allow us to change -- to live, really. Someone should write a piece about this.) The Wall of Death (or any of its other various verbal permutations) is just what gets in the way of that. Sometimes its institutional (censorship, economic constraints, legal or logistical concerns) and sometimes its individual or cultural, but there's something in this kind of movement that is opening up possibilities of dance, theater and "visual" art. Yeah, like Mr Twain said:

“Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.”

The Wall of Death? Maybe Pink Floyd? Nah.

The idea that there’s a problem with experience and art is not a new one. I’m just struggling to find a way to talk about it in our current context. Because there is a lot of work going on in our fair city(ies) that uses (intentionally or not) practices I see as related to Mr Neumann’s that I feel are ways of breaking down expectations, habits of thinking and seeing, and preconceptions in order to allow us to change — to live, really. Someone should write a piece about this.) The Wall of Death (or any of its other various verbal permutations) is just what gets in the way of that. Sometimes its institutional (censorship, economic constraints, legal or logistical concerns) and sometimes its individual or cultural, but there’s something in this kind of movement that is opening up possibilities of dance, theater and “visual” art.

]]> By: Galen http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/#comment-22474 Galen Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:46:03 +0000 http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/#comment-22474 To me portions of the Fuck were totally intentional and others were less so. It felt like an intentional piece, though not completely dictated. One of the things i enjoyed most (and at this moment personal enjoyment as an audience member is a pretty significant thing when I am going to see 3 shows a week) was the very specific ability for individuals to shine without derailing the piece. The Wall of Death is an interesting idea. Are you referencing someone? I felt like the swearing functioned very similarly to the commentators. When I played soccer competitively there was a lot of swearing. It is part of the sport. It is part of the language. It is positive and negative and motivational. It is also very personal sometimes. Swear words feel good when it hurts. To me portions of the Fuck were totally intentional and others were less so. It felt like an intentional piece, though not completely dictated. One of the things i enjoyed most (and at this moment personal enjoyment as an audience member is a pretty significant thing when I am going to see 3 shows a week) was the very specific ability for individuals to shine without derailing the piece.

The Wall of Death is an interesting idea. Are you referencing someone? I felt like the swearing functioned very similarly to the commentators. When I played soccer competitively there was a lot of swearing. It is part of the sport. It is part of the language. It is positive and negative and motivational. It is also very personal sometimes. Swear words feel good when it hurts.

]]> By: Charles Campbell http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/#comment-22417 Charles Campbell Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:31:27 +0000 http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/#comment-22417 Yes, Mr Treuer, fuck is a fine word and I was amused by the extended vocabulary lesson. If they had done a little more it might even have gone into the realm of the Beautiful. What I was wondering is whether such silliness was a byproduct or if it was intentional part of the creation -- and either way how it fit. My impression is that it was a part of the attempt to escape the wall of death -- along with the gold lamé and the rolled up newspapers. I agree about the coach-leader-dictator-man-in-charge. And not just in sports and arts, right? Maybe some of the silliness is an anti-authoritarian gesture -- sort of Dada? But more formal or something. Could you elaborate on the "wrong" part, Ms Rousse? Yes, Mr Treuer, fuck is a fine word and I was amused by the extended vocabulary lesson. If they had done a little more it might even have gone into the realm of the Beautiful. What I was wondering is whether such silliness was a byproduct or if it was intentional part of the creation — and either way how it fit. My impression is that it was a part of the attempt to escape the wall of death — along with the gold lamé and the rolled up newspapers.

I agree about the coach-leader-dictator-man-in-charge. And not just in sports and arts, right? Maybe some of the silliness is an anti-authoritarian gesture — sort of Dada? But more formal or something.

Could you elaborate on the “wrong” part, Ms Rousse?

]]> By: Sally Rousse http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/#comment-22415 Sally Rousse Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:04:36 +0000 http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/#comment-22415 wrong wrong

]]> By: Galen Treuer http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/#comment-22407 Galen Treuer Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:32:29 +0000 http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/02/01/death/#comment-22407 Fuck fuuck FUCK <i>fuck</i><i> .... fuck you can say that a lot. you can say it all night long. I've heard plenty of sporty and arty people say it again and again. I loved the pacing and fuck yelling Neil did along the edge. The role of coach-leader-dictator-man in charge is present all over the place in art. For me the piece functioned as a way of looking at art through the lens of a different but related form of expression.</i> Fuck fuuck FUCK fuck …. fuck

you can say that a lot. you can say it all night long. I’ve heard plenty of sporty and arty people say it again and again.

I loved the pacing and fuck yelling Neil did along the edge. The role of coach-leader-dictator-man in charge is present all over the place in art.

For me the piece functioned as a way of looking at art through the lens of a different but related form of expression.

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