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	<title>Comments on: Woe is Wampler</title>
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		<title>By: Charles Campbell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/01/26/woe-wampler/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take on the TEAM and Powerful People were two different things, but I don&#039;t think things have to be either clear or alienating. I&#039;ve now put &quot;Syndromes and a Century&quot; on my Netflix list (yes, I&#039;m taking part in the disappearance of the local video store). My favorite stuff is alienating and engaging simultaneously.

I liked the video stuff for the first half hour and the working musician bits for the next. The song lyrics were suggestive enough to make my head play a bit, especially next to the polar bear and the program text. The plants and ushering were less interesting to me, but they put these other elements into a relationship with the more academic issues about audience/performer, authentic/counterfeit, etc.

I think this &quot;emperor&#039;s new clothes&quot; thing is a little unfair. Saying it always puts us in the superior position of the young boy. Isn&#039;t it possible that either there is something there that we missed, or even that there is something there but we just don&#039;t care? Or don&#039;t like it?

I hope my posts on this matter do not put Mr K off Skewed Visions as we seem to disagree about the value of Ms Wampler&#039;s work.

I do not know what Wampler wanted (whoa whoa), but when my guest and I discovered/realized the plants we were entertained -- more to watch. I didn&#039;t get a feeling of Ms Wampler being frustrated with the audience, certainly not in any vindictive way. I felt that she was using these &quot;manipulative&quot; strategies to put the performance into a context in which a higher level of self-awareness is coupled with an uncertainty about what is happening with the performance on a fundamental level.

Because the audience is always a part of the performance -- this is not a new idea. But so many works continue to use the conventional relationship unconsciously or unquestioningly. I admit that one does not have to provoke the audience in order to (for example) create a more fundamental curiosity, but so few works work with that relationship and it is full of rich possibilities.

I am heartened by Mr Anderson&#039;s thinking not because he enjoyed the performance, but because if he gave this one a chance he may also give my work a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on the TEAM and Powerful People were two different things, but I don&#8217;t think things have to be either clear or alienating. I&#8217;ve now put &#8220;Syndromes and a Century&#8221; on my Netflix list (yes, I&#8217;m taking part in the disappearance of the local video store). My favorite stuff is alienating and engaging simultaneously.</p>
<p>I liked the video stuff for the first half hour and the working musician bits for the next. The song lyrics were suggestive enough to make my head play a bit, especially next to the polar bear and the program text. The plants and ushering were less interesting to me, but they put these other elements into a relationship with the more academic issues about audience/performer, authentic/counterfeit, etc.</p>
<p>I think this &#8220;emperor&#8217;s new clothes&#8221; thing is a little unfair. Saying it always puts us in the superior position of the young boy. Isn&#8217;t it possible that either there is something there that we missed, or even that there is something there but we just don&#8217;t care? Or don&#8217;t like it?</p>
<p>I hope my posts on this matter do not put Mr K off Skewed Visions as we seem to disagree about the value of Ms Wampler&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>I do not know what Wampler wanted (whoa whoa), but when my guest and I discovered/realized the plants we were entertained &#8212; more to watch. I didn&#8217;t get a feeling of Ms Wampler being frustrated with the audience, certainly not in any vindictive way. I felt that she was using these &#8220;manipulative&#8221; strategies to put the performance into a context in which a higher level of self-awareness is coupled with an uncertainty about what is happening with the performance on a fundamental level.</p>
<p>Because the audience is always a part of the performance &#8212; this is not a new idea. But so many works continue to use the conventional relationship unconsciously or unquestioningly. I admit that one does not have to provoke the audience in order to (for example) create a more fundamental curiosity, but so few works work with that relationship and it is full of rich possibilities.</p>
<p>I am heartened by Mr Anderson&#8217;s thinking not because he enjoyed the performance, but because if he gave this one a chance he may also give my work a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Anderson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/01/26/woe-wampler/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the last show on Saturday.  First impression - first in line, last row...WTF?  I do not like being told what to do EVER so don&#039;t do assigned seating at a general admission show!  Just block off the back few rows!  First few minutes of the show were very cool with the ethereal imagery, and the next twenty mintutes or so I fell into the disappointment of realizing I was watching a band practice (WTF? #2)which I do every week, but from a first person perspective.  Oh, what ever shall I do?  First impulse - watch for the Spinal Tap moments in the commentary, laugh to self.  Second impulse - make jokes about show to the delightful girl next to me.  Third impulse - realize that whatever the message is here isn&#039;t going to be spoon-fed to me, just let it go, and enjoy it.  After all, I paid twenty bucks so I&#039;m determined to get something out of it no matter what.  Anyhoo, I acted upon Impulse #3 and by the end I really was swept off my feet by having the opportunity to watch, ever so voyueuristically, the creative process take place in a very raw, real and uncut fashion.  Yeah, I really got something out of it and yeah, I really had to throw myself into it as a viewer.  But it was worth the effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the last show on Saturday.  First impression &#8211; first in line, last row&#8230;WTF?  I do not like being told what to do EVER so don&#8217;t do assigned seating at a general admission show!  Just block off the back few rows!  First few minutes of the show were very cool with the ethereal imagery, and the next twenty mintutes or so I fell into the disappointment of realizing I was watching a band practice (WTF? #2)which I do every week, but from a first person perspective.  Oh, what ever shall I do?  First impulse &#8211; watch for the Spinal Tap moments in the commentary, laugh to self.  Second impulse &#8211; make jokes about show to the delightful girl next to me.  Third impulse &#8211; realize that whatever the message is here isn&#8217;t going to be spoon-fed to me, just let it go, and enjoy it.  After all, I paid twenty bucks so I&#8217;m determined to get something out of it no matter what.  Anyhoo, I acted upon Impulse #3 and by the end I really was swept off my feet by having the opportunity to watch, ever so voyueuristically, the creative process take place in a very raw, real and uncut fashion.  Yeah, I really got something out of it and yeah, I really had to throw myself into it as a viewer.  But it was worth the effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael K</title>
		<link>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/01/26/woe-wampler/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost posted last night following the Wempler Q&amp;A to the series of postings after Charles Campbell&#039;s but since I was likely to say the Walker wasted money on Wempler that could have been better spent on, for example, any Skewed Visions production I resisted. I wish this Out There production would have been resisted previous to our experiencing it but then we wouldn&#039;t have it as a topic to discuss here. So after reading Lightsey&#039;s post I&#039;ll just say this act was so weak the question is why was it ever developed or produced as is? Yes I was slightly entertained and pushed to consider a little but there has to be more engaging or challenging work by either Wempler or others. And there is a larger issue for me with art more concerned about the audience ending up neglecting the art production onstage itself. The Walker has its needs and Wempler has hers and we the audience have ours so we can always give purpose or meaning to anything we experience but a little more wit and thought could have helped this along. I assume an artist could challenge the audience by presenting less but why not present a little more. I really don&#039;t care as much about what Wempler&#039;s intention or wants are as about what we have presented to us - not much and why? certainly not for lack of money or facilities so why this particular act? I don&#039;t know if this a curatorial decision or a Wempler decision. But I am thankful the Walker invited Claude Wempler as at her workshop this morning she chose to screen Warhol&#039;s film of the dancer Paul Swan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost posted last night following the Wempler Q&amp;A to the series of postings after Charles Campbell&#8217;s but since I was likely to say the Walker wasted money on Wempler that could have been better spent on, for example, any Skewed Visions production I resisted. I wish this Out There production would have been resisted previous to our experiencing it but then we wouldn&#8217;t have it as a topic to discuss here. So after reading Lightsey&#8217;s post I&#8217;ll just say this act was so weak the question is why was it ever developed or produced as is? Yes I was slightly entertained and pushed to consider a little but there has to be more engaging or challenging work by either Wempler or others. And there is a larger issue for me with art more concerned about the audience ending up neglecting the art production onstage itself. The Walker has its needs and Wempler has hers and we the audience have ours so we can always give purpose or meaning to anything we experience but a little more wit and thought could have helped this along. I assume an artist could challenge the audience by presenting less but why not present a little more. I really don&#8217;t care as much about what Wempler&#8217;s intention or wants are as about what we have presented to us &#8211; not much and why? certainly not for lack of money or facilities so why this particular act? I don&#8217;t know if this a curatorial decision or a Wempler decision. But I am thankful the Walker invited Claude Wempler as at her workshop this morning she chose to screen Warhol&#8217;s film of the dancer Paul Swan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Turner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.walkerart.org/performingarts/2008/01/26/woe-wampler/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Wampler gave us the emperor&#039;s new clothes and the audience wore them with unabashed abandon. I&#039;m going to take the gloves completely off: Wampler&#039;s performance was chilly, synthetic, soulless and cynical. I wasn&#039;t angry and I certainly didn&#039;t feel alienated. I did feel manipulated from the very beginning, but I also found myself uncharacteristically playing the role of the resistant spectator (which is rare as I tend to enter the McGuire in January with little more than the coat on my back and a pocket full of naive expectations). I blame the dynamic surrounding the seating arrangement (those poor ushers). Give me the worst seat in the house, damnit! Hey, I like to be aesthetically alienated as much as anybody else (everybody rent the beautifully elliptical SYNDROMES OF A CENTURY), but I must admit I prefer the awkward humanism of The TEAM and Miguel Gutierrez and the Powerful People over this career ending fiasco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Wampler gave us the emperor&#8217;s new clothes and the audience wore them with unabashed abandon. I&#8217;m going to take the gloves completely off: Wampler&#8217;s performance was chilly, synthetic, soulless and cynical. I wasn&#8217;t angry and I certainly didn&#8217;t feel alienated. I did feel manipulated from the very beginning, but I also found myself uncharacteristically playing the role of the resistant spectator (which is rare as I tend to enter the McGuire in January with little more than the coat on my back and a pocket full of naive expectations). I blame the dynamic surrounding the seating arrangement (those poor ushers). Give me the worst seat in the house, damnit! Hey, I like to be aesthetically alienated as much as anybody else (everybody rent the beautifully elliptical SYNDROMES OF A CENTURY), but I must admit I prefer the awkward humanism of The TEAM and Miguel Gutierrez and the Powerful People over this career ending fiasco.</p>
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