Education and Community Programs

I happened upon filmmaker Astra Taylor and her documentary Examined Life at the Women with Vision festival last spring and found myself a huge fan of the film, and I became intrigued by her bio, particularly the fact that she was unschooled until age 13. From what I know about unschooling, it’s very similar to the artist’s life. You wake up each day guided by the question ‘what do I want to learn today?’ You’re not told by a boss or teacher what to do, when to do it, and how to get it done, rather your own curiosities lead the way.

This anarchist approach to education has been fundamental to Taylor’s D.I.Y. attitude towards learning, creativity, and pedagogy. As one interviewer wrote, ‘Her non-traditional upbringing, or as she calls it, her “super weirdo hippy background,” stood her in good stead, providing a strong sense of confidence and an affirmation in her own abilities and artistic vision.’ Thinking about Astra’s unconventional past, I began to wonder how education and the way we’re taught to learn can hinder or support our creative development.

Luckily, Astra will be back to the Walker next Thursday night (talk and gallery admission are free) to speak about how her personal experiences of growing up home-schooled without a curriculum or schedule have shaped her personal philosophy and development as an artist. If you need a primer, check out this great interview she did with CitizenShift or you can get a better idea of Astra’s influences by her recommended reads:

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Animal Liberation by Peter Singer

A Thousand Plateaus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia by Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guatarri

The Golden Notebook by Doris Lessing

Ways of Seeing by John Berger

Wanderlust: A History of Walking by Rebecca Solnit

The Gift: Creativity and the Artist in the Modern World by Lewis Hyde

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Other Suggestions:

“Against School” by John Taylor Gatto in Harpers Magazine, September 2003

How Children Learn by John Holt

How Children Fail by John Holt

Deschooling Society by Ivan Illich

The Teenage Liberation Handbook: How to Quit School & Get a Real Life & Education by Grace Llewellyn

As if family life isn’t challenging enough, Manhattanite Colin Beavan takes it to the ultimate test when he decides to embark on an experiment to see if leading a life with zero environmental impact affects happiness. To make it work, however, his coffee- and shopping-addicted wife and their toddler have to join his quest. The film, which screens at the Walker September 16th (did I mention it’s FREE?!) follows this life-changing adventure as the family adapts to their new lifestyle, the couple struggles with their marriage, and the criticisms fly after Beavan’s many media appearances.

Co-director of No Impact Man, Laura Gabbert graciously answered some questions about the making of the film while visiting with family in Minneapolis.

What got you interested in this project?

Colin’s wife, Michelle Conlin is an old friend I grew up with in Minneapolis. I knew Colin was embarking on this experience early on so my filmmaking partners and I asked him if we could make a film about it.

What made you think this would be a good documentary?

Colin’s project was interesting to me as a filmmaker because it was a character-driven, solution-based approach to the environmental crisis. As we embarked on the filmmaking, we were excited by the immediacy and the intimacy of observing one family attempting to make these changes in their lives.

How did you convince Michelle and Colin to let you make a documentary film of No Impact Man (NIM)?

Michelle was game from the beginning. She’s a journalist and knew it would be good for the project. Colin was leary of a documentary crew following him around and observing his family life, but eventually he agreed that a documentary film could explore different dimensions of the project than his book.

When did the filming begin and can you give a sense of how much time you spent with the family over the year?

NIM began in November 2006, and we started filming about one week into the project. Justin Schein (co-director/cinematographer), who is based in Brooklyn, was there twice a week for shooting. I made regular visits to New York (from L.A.) 6 to 7 times over the year, and I slept on Michelle and Colin’s sofa each time so that I could shoot them late at night or first thing in the morning. We followed the Beavan/Conlins for the entire year and for about six months after the project ended.

Can you explain how you and Justin adapted your filmmaking to reduce your footprint?

Colin requested we make as green a film as possible. Documentary filmmaking already has less environmental impact than a Hollywood production. I had to reduce my air travel in half. Since the film was shot in NY and edited in LA we used the internet to send cuts back and forth. In NY no cars or lights were used, and all tracking shots of the Beavans riding a bicycle were done from a bike. The filming was all local since the Beavans didn’t travel. Justin decided to use the old DV camera he had instead of purchasing a new HD one, and he used 4 rechargeable batteries all year long. Six months into the project when the Beavans turned off their electricity, we shot only with natural light. We went with a grainy look as our subjects lived by candlelight.

Do you think you’ll try to incorporate these practices into future projects?

Definitely. There are new environmental codes for fiction and nonfiction filmmaking and technology is making it much easier to be green.

Did you ever think Colin and Michelle would reach a breaking point?

The publicity explosion around the experiment was the most challenging thing for Colin and Michelle, especially after the NY Times article came out (“The Year Without Toilet Paper” March 2007). Colin was inundated with requests by the press and this started getting in the way of the experiment. Colin was thrust into the position of being a spokesperson for the environmental movement and this was a surprise and challenge for him at first. (Although since the NIM year, he’s become a prolific educator and public speaker.) Colin and Michelle each had their ups and downs during the course of the year. Half way through the year Michelle had what she calls a “conversion experience” and began to feel more motivated politically as she began to see the positive effects the experiment was having on her health and her family.

How did you see the Beavan/Conlin family evolve over the course of the year?

By stripping away things like shopping and entertainment they got back to the basics of spending time with one another, they rediscovered things they had lost. It was the Walden side of the experiment. It made them healthier and happier. They focused inward a little more. Paradoxically, they also became more engaged in environmental issues in their community. They became more engaged politically.

One of the ideas behind the Walker’s Raising Creative Kids initiative is that parents are key models in developing their children’s creativity. Certainly the NIM year must have forced Colin and Michelle to think outside the box when it came to parenting. Can you comment on the creative aspect of their family life during NIM?

They spent a lot more time together as a family and a lot more time out exploring the city. Because they had no light or electricity in their apartment, it forced them outside and they embraced the city in ways they hadn’t previously. They biked everywhere in the summer and spent evenings along the Hudson River and in their community garden. Because one of the rules of the experiment was “not buying anything new”, in order to buy their three year old daughter Christmas presents, they shopped at their local consignment and second-hand children’s stores. There was a great post in Colin’s NIM blog related to this idea of what to do without TV.

Colin and Isabella at Market, photo courtesy Oscilloscope Laboratories

How has NIM changed you and your family’s lifestyle?

A lot of this stuff just makes sense to kids–composting, for example. When Colin challenged us to make changes in our own lives, this was something my family adopted. My kids (an 8 yr. old and a 5 yr. old) intuitively understood composting and they got a kick out of it. If someone at our house tries to throw vegetable scraps in the garbage, my kids are there to correct them. We’ve started a vegetable garden, and the kids enjoy seeing where their vegetables come from and harvesting and eating their own produce. We do our best to carpool, which is challenging in L.A., and we participate in local environmental organizations such as Tree People’s tree plantings around the city.

Do Colin, Michelle, and Isabella continue to live according to the same rules of the NIM year? Have any allowances been made for the sake of convenience?

They’re low impact now as opposed to no impact. There’s still no air conditioning, but air travel is allowed, and they share a plot at the community garden. Their main mode of transportation is their bicycles, but if it’s raining or snowing, they’ll take the subway. They’re not nearly as strict, but definitely more mindful about their choices. NIM was a full-time job…to make your own bread every week and do your laundry by hand only works if one adult in the family doesn’t need to be at the office from 9–5 (Michelle maintained her job at BusinessWeek throughout NIM). What they learned is that it’s pretty easy to reduce your impact by 75%, but it’s the last 25% that’s really hard.

What’s your next project?

There are several. Habeas at the Gate, a narrative film based on a friendship between a Guatanamo detainee and his Park Avenue lawyer, and The F Word, a documentary about the state of feminism today.

Thanks Laura. I can’t wait to see No Impact Man when it screens at the Walker!

I’m excited the Walker is screening it. I actually took art and dance classes at the Walker when I was a child.

No Impact Man makes its Minneapolis premiere at the Walker’s Cinema on Wednesday, September 16, 7:30 pm before opening at the Lagoon Cinema on October 2nd. The Walker screening is free and will be introduced by co-director, Laura Gabbert. Colin Beavan’s book, No Impact Man The Adventures of a Guilty Liberal Who Attempts to Save the Planet, and the Discoveries He Makes About Himself and Our Way of Life in the Process hits shelves in September and you can read his daily posts on the No Impact Man blog.

The weather outside was frightful last night (tornado hits Minneapolis!), but inside the Walker, the art and food were delightful as the Council on Asian-Pacific Minnesotans, artist Seexeng Lee, and the Walker co-presented an art workshop and dinner to celebrate community, family, and cultural exchange. Asian American and Pacific Islander families along with members of the Walker’s Parent Advisory Group and their families came together to create a tiled mural filled with symbols and words inspired by Hmong culture, the Walker Art Center, and each individual’s creativity. The result: a powerful, colorful sum of parts.

Seexeng, who’s a practicing artist and teacher at South H.S., developed the overarching design on a series of 50 small square canvas tiles and asked participants to select a tile that spoke to them, and fill it with their own symbols. Once the paintings were complete the families helped themselves to a delicious buffet of food from Mango Thai, while Seexeng speedily dried and assembled the paintings onto a large plywood frame behind closed doors so that the unveiling was, to quote Johnny Depp in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, “the best prize of all, a SURPRISE!”

Families hard at play

Calvin Her, PaYong Xiong, Missy Her, Mysister Her

The spread, courtesy Mango Thai Restaurant in St. Paul

Voila! The culminating masterpiece

Detail of mural

What images and symbols can you find?

In anticipation of the Walker’s ‘Fantastic Fourth‘ free event taking place in the Minneapolis Sculpture Garden on Saturday, July 4th, indie singer-songwriter Haley Bonar and hip-hop artist M.anifest share their thoughts about the upcoming holiday.

Haley Bonar, Photo by Cameron Wittig

M.anifest, Photo courtesy the artist

Favorite 4^th of July memory?

HB: Watching the fireworks from Star Village in Rapid City, SD with my sisters on a blanket drinking coke.

Favorite type of firework?

HB: The ones that feel like they’re getting really close as they grow bigger.

M: The type that goes ka-boom and sends colorful sparks sky high. You can tell I’m no expert in fireworks nomenclature :)

Sparklers or Snaps?

HB: Sparklers are more magical!

Best lawn game?

HB: Lying down and reading a book.

M: Football (or soccer as called in these parts)

Best grill food?

HB: Summer squash and sweet potato

M: Chicken and plantains. My friend Mandla in Brooklyn Park makes the best barbeque grilled chicken in Minnesota. I stand by it!

What’s this country mean to you?

HB: Except for the littering of chain restaurants and stores across the land, it is one of the most beautiful countries around. I love the Black Hills, Oregon, Wisconsin, the UP (Upper Peninsula, MI), Montana, Northern Minnesota, boundary waters… so many awesome places to see.

M: It means a lot of opportunities as well as many contradictions. The land of the free you know. It means the epicenter of world political power. It means diversity in a beautifully strange way. You can find just about any kind of person in America: black, white, broke-as-hell, rich-as-well, liberal, neo-nazi, preacher, organic food eating, gun toting libertarians, and the list goes on. Lastly it means a good part of my adult life and music life thus far.

What song do you associate with 4^th of July?

HB: Born in the USA (even though I wasn’t!)

What song do you associate with independence?

M: “God bless our homeland Ghana.” I do dig the star spangled banner though…nice melody. I’m about to check Wikipedia to find out who wrote it.

What are you most looking forward to about spending your holiday at the Walker?

HB: Singing for you fine people.

M: Looking forward to seeing lots of people all coming out to have a good time. Good vibes and merry-making. We can forget about the recession for a day I suppose.

Where will you be watching fireworks on Saturday night?

HB: Not sure but hopefully somewhere with all my best friends and family.

M: Not quite sure yet, but I’ll be trying somewhere different this year. Preferably a less crowded location

A free outdoor Independence Day concert will be kicked off by Sumunar Gamelan Ensemble at 11 am, followed by Haley Bonar at 1 pm, and M.anifest at 2 pm near the Spoonbridge and Cherry.

Need an antidote to the recession blues? Wondering what to do on your summer stay-cation? Look no further than the Walker and Minneapolis Sculpture Garden where free-wheelin’ fun times await you on the 4th of July. From 10 am to 3 pm enjoy free gallery admission, a daylong outdoor concert, an art bike parade and contest, art-making activities, hula-hooping workshops, and a Wolfgang Puck garden grill to get your independent spirit soaring-all part of a special holiday edition of Free First Saturday, called “Fantastic Fourth!” Be sure to decorate your bike at home in red, white, and blue flair, and bring it with you to enter the bike parade that kicks off at noon near the Spoonbridge and Cherry. Winners will be announced at 1 pm at the main stage. All ages are welcome! In case that’s not a clear enough case for why the Walker should be your holiday destination, check out my top ten list of reasons why to take advantage of the all-access pass to summer fun:

1. You missed Rock the Garden? Catch another amazing musical line-up for FREE: Sumunar Gamelan Ensemble (11 am), Haley Bonar (1 pm), and M.anifest (2 pm)

2. This is way easier than a week-end camping trip up north

3. Rumor has it there may be dippin’ dots at the Garden Grill by Wolfgang Puck

4. Ever tried making spin art with a salad spinner? (Nope, we haven’t either, but we’re hoping this DIY project works out.)

5. Where else can you get a 1,200 pound cherry in the backdrop of your family snapshot?

6.  Can’t afford air conditioning, come inside the building and enjoy ours (wow, and there’s art too!)

7. See Grandma hula-hoop like nobody’s business

8. There’s about 12 hours to kill before the fireworks go off

9. Discover the magic of aluminum foil: bike decor by day, grill grate cover by night

10. Because we’re the only art center in town holding a party just for you!

Courtesy the Duffalo family archives

Families were enchanted at last week-end’s Free First Saturday by the marvelous ways artists explore time and space using science, sound, and technology in the exhibition The Quick and the Dead. The day was entitled ‘Magical Mysteries’ and was highlighted by a series of explorations led by the Science Museum of Minnesota, an instrument-making activity surrounded by cool sound stations designed by L.A.-based musician/artists Sarah RaRa and Luke Fischbeck (part of sound duo Lucky Dragons and the drawing collective, Sumi Ink Club), a magic show by G Sparks, and a dance sampler with New World Dance: New York.

This past week-end drew a great crowd to Free First Saturday. The Family Photobooth was a perfect addition to the days’ events, which were focused on portraiture, painting, and the exhibition Live Forever: Elizabeth Peyton. In case you’re wondering about the backdrop in the photos, this is not a replacement for Takashi Murakami’s wallpaper, but a fabulously printed fabric called “Leo” put out by Alexander Henry Fabrics that’s available at Crafty Planet in Northeast Minneapolis.

Just because Jody Williams‘ books are small doesn’t mean they aren’t a huge undertaking. Each year this Minneapolis-based book artist devotes time to one large-scale project, in addition to smaller projects, and her teaching commitments at Minnesota Center for Book Arts and Minneapolis College of Art and Design. The Walker is showing her 1998 piece, In Here / Out There as part of the Text/Messages: Books by Artists exhibition, and she was kind enough to stop by last week-end’s Free First Saturday to show families mock-ups of this book as well as another one, called Word for Word inspired by one of my favorite word games, Scrabble.

In Here / Out There 3" x 2 1/4" x 1 1/2" edition 65, out of print , 1998

Here are some interesting tidbits about Jody’s work:

• She likened In Here / Out There to our experience of living in Minnesota during winter…you want to go outside but you can’t because of the cold, but staying inside and in your head for so long can be a dangerous thing.
• The ladder made of linen thread was glued together and held between 2 wax sheets of paper while it adhered together.
• In Here / Out There was reproduced 65 times over, to produce an edition. Similar to printmakers, book artists make multiples so they can sell their work and make it accessible to a larger number of people.
• Sometimes Jody makes her own paper and prints her own designs onto paper before using it to make a book (which makes the value go up). The black designs on the red paper in In Here / Out There were printed using a technique called linoleum block printing.
• Despite the fact that Jody’s books are usually contained within a box, she admitted to not liking her college architecture class because there were “too many rules.” She prefers to make her own rules!
• Her Scrabble-inspired book Word for Word is meant to be used as you play the game. She made her own letter-pieces for this project. How are they different from the ones you use to play with?

Word for Word 2 1/2" x 2 3/4" edition of 100, 2001

Remember the Teletubbies-Britain’s most iconic TV show for kids to come out of the late 90s? Much to my surprise and amusement, it turns out that Gary Stevens, a British conceptual artist performing in the Walker’s upcoming show, ‘Ape’, was once a writer and consultant for the popular children’s program! He was kind enough to share his accounts of life in Teletubby land. Thanks Gary, and big hug to you!

Be sure to catch Gary Stevens, along with Julian Maynard Smith (Station House Opera) and Wendy Houstoun (Forced Entertainment), in one of three performances of ‘Ape’, co-presented with Bryant Lake Bowl, Red Eye, and Open Eye Figure Theatre.

How and when did you begin working for the Teletubbies program?

I had been working for Ragdoll, the company that produced the Teletubbies, for some time. Ann Wood, the producer had seen me in a performance called ‘If the Cap Fits’, where I put on more and more jackets and trousers until I looked like a giant onion. I could have planted the Teletubby seed, who knows. I introduced Andrew Davenport [co-creator of Teletubbies] to the company through some pilots and experiments that I conducted. Andrew became a puppeteer with them before conceiving and writing the Teletubbies. So, I was there at the beginning (1997) and before the beginning as a consultant. I sang the theme tune and did some of the voice-over work.

Language and slapstick humor are a common thread between your own work and the Teletubbies program. Words and actions endlessly recur in scenes like Tinky Winky searching for Po in a game of hide and seek, just as the characters in your show ‘Ape’ (see video clip here) vie for control in a continual game of repeat-the-speak, both resulting in pure comedy.

In ‘Ape’ there is an agreement game. They seem to be having a conversation but they are building on what has previously been said. They do not have any opinions or ideas of their own. They do not know who they are, so they try to get along by doing the safest thing, which is to agree. They play with nuanced copies. They do not own their speech; there is a hint of Tourette’s syndrome. The Teletubbies enjoy speech and the sound of words. Andrew originally studied Phonetics and Linguistics at University College London. There is something childlike about both kinds of behaviour, but there is something alien about both as well.

What influenced your own interests in language and comedy? Did you grow up in a humorous family?

Yes. I hardly said or did anything straight as a child. In fact, I would get into trouble for assuming that everyone knew that I was joking. Quite often, they did not.

Teletubbies nurtures a young child’s ability to develop cognitively and make those early connections to talking, listening, and moving through use of repetition, large movements, bright colors, and a deliberately slow pace. I’m curious to know, how much research went into producing each episode?

There was from the outset a repertoire of phrases. They had their own language. Lots of research went into the initial idea that could be drawn on for each episode. It is harder than you think to write for the Teletubbies. I was inclined to introduce some anarchic element that would be ironed out in committee. Ann Wood and Andrew were the people that inhabited the world of the Teletubbies.

You and Andrew Davenport, worked together years before the series began in a project of yours called ‘Animal‘. What is this show about and what were your roles? Was this the first time you two met? Do you continue to collaborate?

I saw Andrew at the ICA in London performing in a show with Kate France. It must have been about 1988 or 89. I asked them both to work on ‘Animal’ with me. It was a complex show but basically there was some doubt about the humanity of the performer’s behaviour. Andrew was obedient and got very upset if anyone left the stage and waited in a state of agitation for the person to return, only to floor them in an embrace in his excitement and enthusiasm. He did not literarily behave like a dog, but there was something distinctly dog-like about the general behaviour. I also worked with him on another show called ‘Name‘, which involved three performers running around playing far more characters, young, old, male and female. We have not seen much of each other since then.

Are there any episodes you’re particularly proud of?

The whole project was a brave thing for the company to take on. It was an enormous investment and risk. Nothing quite that big had been attempted in children’s television. Everyone hoped it would be successful of course, but no one anticipated how popular it would become. So there is no individual programme that distinguishes itself for me; it is the concept and conviction that makes me proud of Andrew and Ann. I had very little to do with it.

Which character-Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa-Laa, or Po is your favorite? Why?

I think Laa-Laa is my favourite. I don’t know why, perhaps it is because she is yellow.

Each of them has a special personal belonging they identify with: Tinky Winky a red bag, Dipsy a tall hat, Laa-Laa an orange ball, and Po, a blue scooter. What would you say is your most treasured object?

I think it has to be my iPhone, I am ashamed to say, although I carry a bag around with me all the time, which is brown and very manly.

Many adults not familiar with Teletubbies might find it brain-numbingly slow, super repetitive, and well, just bizarre. Roaming the pastoral Teletubby Land, these psychedelically-colored, baby-talking space people love technology and one another, and spend most of their time playing games and giving hugs. In your opinion, why was Teletubbies such a successful phenomenon in children’s television?

I don’t know why it was so successful. I was interested in the idea of lingering on a scene or image so that a child could have time for their thoughts, rather than be led by a fast paced narrative. Coming from a visual arts background, the norm is a still image: photography and painting. Animation and narrative is something to contend with. Someone made a similar complaint about a video installation of mine called, ‘Slow Life’, where everyone moves very slowly in real time. I tried to explain to them that although it was slow for a film, it was fast for a painting. If children are going to watch television then it is better for the child to be creative in response to it. The programme aspired to function as a toy.

Not everyone embraced the Teletubbies, including the late Jerry Falwell and Polish politician, Ewa Sowińska who were convinced Tinky Winky was promoting homosexuality to children based on the fact that he carried a handbag. How did you and the creators of the show react to such accusations?

The Teletubbies do not have a strong sense of a self-image. They are indeterminate. Tinky Winky does not have a sophisticated understanding of the social, cultural and sexual connotations of the bag. I think he likes it because it is shiny and red.

In case you haven’t see the show, don’t worry all 365 episodes will be aired for years to come all over the world (on PBS in the U.S.). Here’s a taste:

I’m particularly excited about the upcoming Free First Saturday, highlighting Larry Yazzie and his son Jessup, who will be performing the fast and colorful Fancy Dance on Saturday, January 3rd. The theme of the day “Styled by Saarinen” is inspired by the exhibition Eero Saarinen: Shaping the Future (closing January 4th) and the design innovations of this legendary architect. If you’re wondering what connection the Native American Fancy Dance has to Saarinen and architecture, unfortunately there aren’t any that I know of (except for maybe the stamina and hard work both require). But, there is one important parallel between the Yazzie and Saarinen families-each produced a creative father-son duo, (Eero is the son of architect Eliel Saarinen, well-known for designing the Cranbrook Educational Community in the Detroit suburb of Bloomfield Hills, Michigan). Like Larry and Jessup, who perform together whenever possible, Eero and Eliel collaborated on a number of important commissions as co-architects, the last completed project by Saarinen and Saarinen was Christ Church Lutheran in Minneapolis’ Longfellow neighborhood. So, it’s in the spirit of teamwork and raising creative kids, that we kick-off 2009.

Thanks, Larry for answering some of my questions about the Fancy Dance. You can watch the Yazzies’ performance “Sharing the Gift” at 11 am and 1 pm in the Walker Cinema.

Larry Yazzie, courtesy the artist

Can you explain the Fancy Dance and its origins?

The Oklahoma Feather Dance or “Fancy Dance” is one of the most popular styles of dance seen at modern powwows. It originated as the Fancy War Dance by the Hethuska society in Oklahoma and was invented by Gus McDonald, the first World Champion Fancy War Dancer.

Who dances the Fancy Dance, and are there certain occasions when the Fancy Dance is performed?

Mostly young men and boys. Fancy Dance is usually the highlight at powwows and special events because of the energy and colorful regalia.

How long have you been dancing?

I’ve been dancing for most of my life since the age of 5.

You learned the Fancy Dance from your grandmother and grandfather, and have passed the tradition on to your 10-year-old son, Jessup. Was he a quick study?

Jessup began dancing since he could walk at the tender age of two. Jessup has already developed his own technique and style.

How often do you two dance together?

We dance together whenever possible at powwows and special events.

You were named World Champion for the Northern Style Fancy Dance in 1995, and Jessup has won junior division competitions at powwows across the United States and Canada. Can you describe the level of training and amount of practice that goes into preparing for a powwow?

It requires endurance and stamina to perform the Fancy Dance and takes a lot of training and running. It’s like preparing for a marathon. I also won the world championship in 2007.

Jessup Yazzie, courtesy of the artist

One of the most striking things about your performances (in addition to the dance itself) is the elaborate clothing you wear. Do the colors and style of dress have any symbolic meaning?

The regalia reflects my life and tribal identity-the Meskwaki people of central Iowa.

You’re taking a brief break from a national and international tour with the Native Pride Dancers, which will pick up again in the New Year. What are some of the special places you have traveled to, any tour highlights?

Within the last several years I have been invited to Australia, Ireland, Japan twice, Brazil and numerous cities across the U.S.

What motivates you to continue dancing?

Dancing allows me to be creative and keeps me in top shape especially for my age. It challenges me to improve as a competitor.

Do you and your son Jessup share any other creative outlets?

We enjoy sharing our culture through song & dance by teaching our dance to other children.

What do you want young audiences to take away from your performances at Free First Saturday?

To show what our elders have passed down to us and to be proud of who we are as Native Peoples, and to let the young audience know the Native Americans are the Indigenous people of North America.